Updates on the Blog and from the Catholic World with the Latin Mass: Kyrie

I am currently detained in duties of house sitting for the next several days. I ask any of the other authors of the Latin Community to post if able as there will be plenty of schedule time to do so.

If any are interested, Servus–who writes for the Latin Community– has re-started his ecumenical blog discussing the issues that have been presented to all Christians in this increasingly hostile world. Here is a link:

A direct link to today’s post by Geoffrey:

Also, I would like to draw readers attention to a documentary on Pope St. John Paul II and the Fall of Communism, which early this morning I read the NCR article about the movie. I have purchased the film and will give further comments after viewing.



For today, I have decided to leave the community my favorite rendition of the Kyrie composed by probably my favorite Catholic composer William Byrd. Again, all writers of the Latin Community, feel free to post anytime.

Let’s Learn Latin: What You Will Need.

One of the goals of this blog is to create a community where we can learn Latin, the official language of Our Church, together to promote our Catholic culture throughout the world. 

I took Latin in college and my strongest skill is an understanding of the grammar. If there are any stronger Latin scholars out there please contact me through the comment section, and I will allow you to run this portion of the community. 

Do you need any resources? 

Yes, and no, but mostly yes.

I will provide a few examples through post; however, I encourage everyone to go to Amazon, or wherever you buy books, and purchase Getting Started with Latin by William E. Linney. The book I used in college was created for that specific class and it resembled Wheelock’s Latin textbook which its primary function is to teach Classical Latin. Linney’s book, although it teaches Classical Latin, has great function with starting Ecclesiastical Latin for adult learners. The author breaks down each lesson into small lessons which allows one to memorize easier at a slower pace. The book doesn’t assume that you know advance grammar terminology, and in fact, doesn’t assume you know basic terms like what is a direct object. The best part about the book is that the author provides a website where you can download the pronunciations for Ecclesiastical Latin! 

Tips for Learning: 

When learning Latin you have to do more than just translate the language, remember you want to functionally use this language everyday. So when you translate the Latin into English on a separate sheet of paper, remember to read the Latin out loud, which makes the pronunciation MP3s invaluable and a key to your success. After you complete the translation into English set the paper aside for a few hours or a day. After some time has passed go back and write your translation back into Latin. 

Hopefully we can get enough grounding to work up to text like A Primer of Ecclesiastical Latin By John F. Collins and a work on a few translation from St. Augustine’s Confessions 

Defend us in Battle.


I had a pretty disturbing dream last night; it could stem from a variety of things–maybe a combination. One of my favorite blogs, which is really ecumenical in nature, has been torn apart recently by our differences in faith. I have done my best to heal wounds of both sides and to extend my hand of friendship. A lot of the anger has been generated by traditional views of Catholicism.

Another source could be that I am reading a history of the Crusades written by Thomas Madden. As history is my interest in my profession, it’s certainly strange that reading a book on a topic would have such a profound impact on my dreams. Of course, much of it could also stem from reading Brideshead Revisited and ideas floated around on religion in the book.

In my dream, I just remember carnage and death. The buildings did seem urban and were sort of a clay color that were tumbled over. I walked or ran through an alley of rubble piled up against the buildings until I finally ran into a girl. The girl was tan with dark hair; she was covered dirt and black from the smoke. She screamed, “This is because of Religion…This is because of Religion.” My reply out of fear in my dream was, “God is Good…God is Good.” The girl’s reaction was a long tremendous scream which woke me from the dream. I woke up in sweat, and I felt disturbed by the whole experience. Was my dream trying to convince me against religion?

Notwithstanding, I found comfort with God after the dream. I got my laptop and found this Latin hymn of a prayer my diocese says after every mass has been concluded: St. Michael the Archangel. The chant comforted my spirits and was able to get some sleep again.

Traditionalists or Schismatics of the Catholic Church


More or less this post is in response to exchanged comments on this lovely blog, Catholic Coffee Talk, on the post, Latin Everything Isn’t The Answer. I have discussed many of these points with fellow Catholics Dave, I will concede that this work is not intended for him. Some of the points have been generated also by quiavideruntoculi, which I always welcome his assertions, which are filled usually with good understanding and evidence, perhaps this is why I have created this post for his possible response.

Philip Augustine

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